Discussion in 'Boxing News and Discussion' started by Rebel, Mar 13, 2007.
Beristain worked with Chavez for a while also, at least for the MAGO fight.
He was joking.
Exactly. Preach it! Stupidity doesn't have any bounds these days and black and Rjay are prime examples of that. :clappy:
Manny is a better trainer and has the track record to prove it. Nacho is terrible for his fighters. He may be a decent trainer, but he's a career killing manager. Look at how horribly he's mismanaged Manuel Marquez's career. If you were a fighter, who would you pick? I'd bet the majority of folks on this board would go with Manny.
We aren't talking about a manager here. It's about TRAINER.
Aside from Hearns, he hasn't done shit. And Hearns was already a naturally talented fighter with great physical attributes and power.
Do you think Steward could turn a limited fighter like Daniel Zaragoza into a consistent champion, a HOFer? Me thinks not!
Man, sometimes I think you're an idiot or just don't know the sport.
Why do you keep saying that all he did was train Hearns?? ... I just pointed out tons of fighters that Steward can take full credit for.
Again, Emanuel has already proven that he's one of the greatest Trainers & Managers the game has ever seen. Don't discredit him just because he's not "Limited" to just that anymore!!
Again, he has to balance Training all those fighters he has, Running his gyms, being a manager, being a commentator & flying back n forth to work w/ the Klitscko's (and others). He is just one person, ya know.
Beristain can focus on just training because he isn't in demand like Steward is!! Think about that before you spout this nonsense!!
BTW - To answer your question: Steward has turned many marginal fighters into solid champs. Do I need to list those also?
Buddy McGirt turned around Gatti, Tarver etc ... But you were the main guy trying to discredit him also. Do I smell a racial bias?
-----> One more point... You can't even compare Beristain to Steward as a manager or trainer.
Here is why: Steward is a greater Manager, we know that. Beristain is cut from the same clothe as Jack Mosely as a manager. They're both Horrible at managing. Now what makes him such a terrible manager is that he hasn't secured any big fights for his fighters, especially JMM. Now if he can't secure any big fights for his fighters, he can't be training his fighters for any big fights. And if he isn't training his fighters for any big fights, then he can't be winning any big fights!!
Now we know for a fact that Emanuel Steward is a big fight Trainer/Manager. He trained Hearns alone for fights w/ Leonard, Hagler, Duran, Benitez, Cuevas etc... That alone blows Nacho away in big fights. .... Then he trained Lewis for Holyfield, Tyson, Klitschko, Rahman, Mercer, Morrison etc...
I could name so much more. Just quit while you're behind man!! haha
Good post bro.
No I wasn't, Hearns is indeed greater than those beaners you mentioned.
Now if you would have said either Chavez or Sanchez, then you would've had a different response from me altogether.
I guess Lopez and da Marquez brothers have no God-given talent then.
No seas pendejo.
Yes, you named a lot of fighters who were busts (Breland) or non-HOFers. Beristain has created many more HOFers. Just accept it already.
I don't know the sport? You're the one who's still reads outdated Ring Magazines in the year 2007. Get with it newbie.
You're just a homer that only wants to give props to Steward because he's an African-American just like you. The stats are there. Beristain is greater. He just happens to be soft-spoken and doesn't speak English, hence he gets no props from you.
Can you read? When has my argument been about who is the greater manager?
They do, but they weren't made 6 feet tall with a master blaster right hand.
Seriously, if Steward had even produced a few more HOFers, I wouldn't even be arguing.
Yeah, but how many beaner fighters are 6 feet tall besides Tito Ortiz.
Almost every beaner on this forum is 6ft tall pendejo. :stroke:
Yeah, of course they are :stroke:
You just can't argue against Rebel when it comes to anything Mexican..... you're talking to a brick wall.
The same could be said about you and Valdosta. You're both just jealous of Mexicans because they're superior to your people in boxing. That burns hard, therefore, you have to constantly try to degrade our fighters. :stroke:
You're such a moron....... I was in the other thread arguing how Mexican fighters are the best. Way to stick your foot in your mouth.
Btw, I am utterly shocked and surprised you would play the race card in an arguement when you're getting your butt kicked. No really, shocked. I've never seen you do anything like that before. Never. Not once. Really. You must be very insecure, othrwise you would'nt bring it up every chance you get.
Luckily for me I am a fan of boxing and not of nationality or race. it allows me to think a bit more clear and definantely more unbiased than someone like yourself.
Hook, line, sinker. :rotf:
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