The Top 5 Fighters From the 80s and 90s

Discussion in 'Boxing News and Discussion' started by Rebel, Nov 27, 2003.

  1. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    1980s

    1. Sugar Ray Leonard
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Salvador Sanchez
    4. Marvin Hagler
    5. Thomas Hearns

    Honorable Mentions: Mike Spinks, Mike Tyson, Aaron Pryor, Larry Holmes

    1990s

    1. Pernell Whittaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Ricardo Lopez
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Evander Holyfield

    Honorable Mentions: Erik Morales, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Felix Trinidad, Lennox Lewis

    This thread will eventually be moved to the Classic Boxing Forum

    [ November 27, 2003, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Rebel ]
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    How in the hell could you leave out Larry Holmes for the 80's?
     
  3. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    You're right. I just picked the top fighters off the top of my head and threw in honrable mentions that popped up as well. I've added him to my honorable mentions for 80s. [​IMG]

    [ November 27, 2003, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: Rebel ]
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    Aight, cool. I have no problem with the rest of your list. Only I'd prolly rank Tito ahead of Holy.
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    You should add Hopkins & Toney for 90's HM. Toney was dominate in the early-to-mid 90's, and Hopkins dominated Middle for the better part of the decade.
     
  6. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    I just did. What do your lists look like?
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    80's:

    1. Leonard
    2. Hagler
    3. Sanchez
    4. Holmes
    5. Chavez

    Honorable mention: Hearns, Pryor, Tyson, Spinks, McCallum, Curry.

    90's:

    1. Tie between Jones & Whitaker.
    2. Lopez
    3. DLH
    4. Tito
    5. Chavez

    Honorable mention: Holy, Toney, Hopkins, Lewis, Morales, Norris.

    [ November 27, 2003, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: Xplosive ]
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    Yo Rebz, I think we both forgot Mike McCallum! The Body Snatcher deserves 80's HM. So does Curry.
     
  9. Valentino

    Valentino Member

    From the 80s

    1- Sugar Ray Leonard
    2- Michael Spinks
    3- Julio Cesar Chavez
    4- Larry Holmes
    5- Mike Tyson/Thomas Hearns

    Note: Salvador Sanchez professional career was only 8 years?of which the vast majority took place in the 70s. However, his championship fights took place in the 80s. I have a problem ranking him in the 80s, because he only fought 3 years in the 80s. While fighters like Hagler, Tyson, Holmes, Hearns, Chavez, Spinks, Leonard, and even Whitaker and Holyfield managed to win as many fights during the same decade.

    From the 90s

    1- Pernell Whitaker
    2- Evander Holyfield
    3- Ricardo Lopez
    4- Felix Trinidad/RJJ
    5- ODLH

    EDIT after reading X's argument.

    [ November 27, 2003, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: Valentino ]
     
  10. Valentino

    Valentino Member

    Now that I think about it...Tyson should be top 5 in the 80s.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    Jones had his best wins(Toney, Hopkins, Griffin, Castro, Tate, Hill, Johnson) in the 90's.

    [ November 27, 2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: Xplosive ]
     
  12. Valentino

    Valentino Member

    I cannot rank ODLH above Tito during the 1990s.

    Trinidad had an undefeated record from 1990 to 1999. With 16 consecutive WELTERWEIGHT Title fight victories (a World Record in a division that had all time greats such as Amstrong, Gavilan, Leonard, Benitez, Hearns, Sugar Ray Robinson, etc.).
    He had a 35-0 record with 29 KOs. Of which 47% of those fights were WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS. In addition to that, he is one of the ALL TIME YOUNGEST fighters to ever win a World Title. An impressive accomplishment considering that he had a relatively short amateur career.

    ODLH had a 31-1 record with 25 KOs. Of which 14 fights were World Title fights (I don?t count the WBO, with the solely exception of the fights he fought at lightweight AFTER winning the IBF). To his credit, he was a 3-division champion and had very good names in his resume.

    Here is my problem: Trinidad only had ONE controversial fight from 1990 to 1999. ODLH had FOUR controversial fights from 1992 to 1999. An argument could be made that ODLH was ?shafted? in the Tito-ODLH fight. However, the same argument could be made with Molina (which I disagree), Whitaker, and Quartey and their fights with ODLH.
     
  13. Valentino

    Valentino Member

    Actually...that's a very good point. He belongs then.
     
  14. Valentino

    Valentino Member

    Here.
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive Member

    Why doesn't anybody put Terry Norris on a list? Norris is underrated these days. I know he had a glass chin, and questionable opposition, but he still ruled 154 for the better part of the 90's, and at his best, was one of the better technicians of the 90's.
     
  16. Valdosta

    Valdosta Boxing Fanatics Moderator

    What took you so long [​IMG]
     
  17. TPSM

    TPSM Guest

    sanchez doesnt quality for the 80s. he died too soon. hed have to go in the 70s category, and im not so sure he had accomplished enough there to make any top 5 list. i dont rank duran in the 80s because his best work came in the 70s. he fought past his ideal weight and had an up and down decade in the 80s. i cant rank hearns b/c he lost most of his biggest fights to leonard, hagler, barkley. though all time he's a great

    80s
    1. leonard
    2. holmes
    3. hagler
    4. tyson
    5. spinks

    90s
    1. whitaker
    2. chavez
    3. trinidad
    4. holyfield
    5. de la hoya

    note, jones is better p4p than all these guys probably, but he didnt have enough significant fights vs. world class opp. in the 90s to put him ahead of anyone on this list.

    [ November 27, 2003, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: Buggy Ding Dong ]
     
  18. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    Chavez in the 90s? He didn't do much then.

    I can't see how Holmes ranks above Chavez. Could you please explain your logic behind that one?
     
  19. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    True but you can only have so many HMs. lol
     
  20. Rebel

    Rebel Admin

    In 3 years, Sanchez had better wins than 3 of your 80s fighters had in 10 years. Mike Tyson never beat a great fighter and he was only dominant for a few years against sub-par opposition before crumbling against Douglas.

    [ November 27, 2003, 09:47 PM: Message edited by: Rebel ]
     

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